A LOT [Don’t do it]

Stop Giving Free Value

hoe_math breaks down a brutal truth: some women openly admit they don’t want a boyfriend—they just want benefits. One woman bragged about a roster of men giving her financial advice, car repairs, therapy, even a camera, while she gives almost nothing back. The guys think they’re “earning” her, but really they’re just free labor.

hoe_math explains why simping ruins the dating market—when men give 70% while she gives 2%, they train her to expect everything for free. He shows how to spot this imbalance, why women never pick from the friend zone, and how men can stop being exploited by setting real terms.

If you stop giving your money, time, and effort for nothing, the dating market resets—and your value skyrockets.

0|66|Roster|Dating Without Commitment|She describes dating for a year, not having a boyfriend, but instead collecting multiple men who provide her services like finance, therapy, car repair, and gifts.
71|147|Table|What You Bring Table|The "table" concept is introduced to evaluate what each side brings—money, status, personality, and relationships—showing how overlooked qualities matter in exchanges.
155|266|Exchange|Unequal Relationship Exchange|The men provide services and expect exclusivity, but she offers only minimal effort, making the exchange highly unbalanced and unfair.
286|366|Simps|Dangers Of Over-Giving|Over-giving without reciprocity devalues men, creating resentment and worsening dating dynamics by inflating expectations and lowering appreciation.
374|417|Effort|Equal Energy Principle|Healthy relationships require matched energy where both partners add to the table; giving too much without return reduces one’s value.
420|468|Choices|Consequences Of Low-Quality Choices|Her actions are compared to failing the "shopping cart test," where selfish behavior leaves emotional and social "trash" in the dating pool.
482|596|Correction|Stop Giving, Reset Market|The advice is to stop giving to women who make no promises, since labor without commitment leads to the friend zone and worsens the dating market.
599|687|Hanky|Small Favors Vs. Big Labor|Small favors may be genuine signals of interest, but providing unpaid professional services for minimal attention reduces value and is unattractive.
691|725|Mockery|Public Humiliation Of Simps|She openly mocks a man who bought her a camera, showing how giving without return leads to being seen as low value.
728|743|Promotion|Book And Chart Links|Closing with links to his charts and new book, tying back to evaluating relationships with the "table" framework.

0.0 I don't have a boyfriend, but I do have a lot, so I go on dates. 11.0 This is another way of saying "I am the table." I haven't promised anything to anyone, but I receive plenty. 27.0 I started dating last August, and now it's been a year. I still don't have a boyfriend, but I do have things: a financial adviser, a physical therapist, a CEO for advice, a plastic surgeon, and even a man who fixed my car. 52.0 I also had a man buy me a G7X camera I couldn’t get myself. I paid him back, but he made sure I got it. 73.0 Now let’s walk through this using my table worksheets, which are available through my link along with my sponsor Short Form. 92.0 The "table" is where you list what you bring and what others bring. It includes money, skills, social status, personality, relationships, and even life experiences. 140.0 Being friends with someone important once made me popular—that’s an example of what you can bring. 147.0 In this case, the six guys bring services like finance, physical therapy, investments, surgery, auto repair, and courier help. What they want is exclusivity, though they clearly aren’t getting it. 204.0 She likely wouldn’t be talking to them if they weren’t providing these things, so those fall in her "needs" category. What she brings is basically her time, maybe texting back sometimes. 239.0 These men are putting in around 70% of a relationship’s worth of effort, while she gives maybe 2%, which is unfair. 289.0 If you give without getting anything back, you make yourself worth nothing to her. Giving too much teaches her to expect everything for free. 327.0 I’ve been the guy giving 300% and receiving zero, and I’ve also been the guy giving 5% and receiving everything. If she likes you, she won’t require endless effort. 356.0 That’s why simping is a losing strategy. It doesn’t win her over, and it ruins the market for everyone else. 423.0 This woman is smart about playing the market, but her choices are low quality. It’s like failing the shopping cart test—if you don’t give back, you make the world worse. 463.0 Accepting without giving back leaves emotional trash behind and pollutes the dating pool, which is why things feel broken now. 482.0 If she takes everything and gives nothing, stop giving until she drops the roster. Don’t do favors for someone who hasn’t made real promises. 517.0 Doing too much labor lands you in the friend zone, and women don’t pick men from there. They choose men who make them feel special. 534.0 This situation is the male version of a situationship—you’re giving everything, getting nothing. 544.0 A better approach is saying, "I’ll fix your car if we live together, otherwise I’m busy." If men do this, the market balances again. 564.0 If simps stop paying, women will have to ask top guys, who won’t give freely, and then things will reset to fairness. 577.0 Don’t give away your money, time, effort, or emotional support for nothing. Make sure these only go to someone serious. 601.0 This applies to big things, like professional services. Small things, like opening a jar, can actually be a signal she likes you—a hanky drop. 640.0 Many men miss this and instead give away huge favors for almost nothing, which makes them look like slaves, not partners. 672.0 Look at every interaction as an exchange. Don’t give a lot to get a little, because that ruins your value and the market overall. 689.0 Remember, she laughed about the man who bought her the G7X, showing she sees him as low value even while she keeps the benefits. 716.0 He thinks he has a chance, but she just sees him as free labor. She doesn’t want to lose his services, so she keeps him hopeful. 719.0 That’s why she says, "I don’t have a boyfriend, but I do have a lot." If you give her a lot, you won’t be the boyfriend. 728.0 For more, the table is in my chart shop, plus my new 280-page book with exclusive thoughts and content, all linked in the description.

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